Yes you know you can, can, can
Ok. It's officially. I hate RTD.
'Torchwood' boss to angry fans: Go watch 'Supernatural'
Интервью под катом. Блин, он меня реально бесит!!!!
Спойлеры к 4ой серии CoE
SPOILER ALERT: Stop reading if you have yet to see Part Four of Torchwood: Children of Earth. Everyone else, onward and downward...
Backlash shmacklash. That's Torchwood creator Russell T. Davies' reaction to the outcry over the shocking death of Gareth David-Lloyd's much-loved Ianto in the BBC America miniseries Children of Earth. "It's not a backlash really," he scoffs. "It's just a few people posting online." Those few people may want to fasten their seat belts, 'cause the unapologetic Brit behind the original Queer as Folk also has some strong opinions about why Ianto had to die, what TV show pissed off fans should watch instead (hint: see headline above), and where Torchwood goes from here.
Question: Why'd you kill Ianto?
RUSSELL T. DAVIES: The threat to the world was just so great it simply would have been unlikely if everyone had survived. Torchwood is an adult show. We have killed off leading members of the cast before. Those have always been the stakes. Poor Ianto was defeated by a greater evil, I'm afraid.
Question: So this wasn't something that resulted from Gareth wanting to leave?
DAVIES: No, it was my decision.
Question: What do you make of the fan backlash?
DAVIES: It's not particularly a backlash. What's actually happening is, well, nothing really to be honest. It's a few people posting online and getting fans upset. Which is marvelous. It just goes to prove how much they love the character and the actor. People often say, 'Fans have got their knives out!' They haven't got any knives. I haven't been stabbed. Nothing's happened. It's simply a few people typing. I'm glad they're typing because they’re that involved. But if you can’t handle drama you shouldn’t watch it. Find something else. Go look at poetry. Poetry’s wonderful.
Question: Can you confirm that Ianto is, in fact, dead?
DAVIES: I’m afraid so. He’s a wonderful actor. I've worked with him before. I’m a big fan of his and I [look forward to] watching his career prosper. But death is death in this case. It would devalue the entire plot if we brought him back.
Question: But it's a risky thing to kill off such a popular character.
DAVIES: Absolutely. There’s a risk that some people won’t come back to watch now that Ianto’s gone. I thank them for watching the show and I recommend they go watch Supernatural, because those boys are beautiful. And don’t tell me they’re brothers. [Laughs] Not in my mind.
Question: One of my readers wondered if you were under pressure to de-gay Torchwood and that's why you killed him off.
DAVIES: I think you can forget about people picking up gay rights as an issue. It's rather like children picking up nursery blocks and waving them in the air but having no idea what it entails. We’re talking about issues in my entire life here, not just one small television program. If they did research they’d go and look at the history of gay and lesbian characters that I have put on screen. They should simply grow up, do some research, and stop riding on a bandwagon that they actually don’t know anything about.
Question: What was Gareth's reaction when you told him you were killing Ianto?
DAVIES: Oh, he’s a lovely, professional man. He completely understood. He’d seen two major characters disappear the year before. It’s a job. It’s a very straightforward process. He loved filming that great big death scene.
Question: With half the cast dead, where does Torchwood go from here?
DAVIES: We don’t yet know about our fourth series, but I’m fairly confident [it will continue] in some shape or form. I will just sit down and invent new stories and characters. That’s what I’ve spent my entire life doing. It’s not difficult at all. I could write the first 10 scenes in an episode right now.
Question: Will Jack continue to be the centerpiece?
DAVIES: Oh, I would think so. I would hope so. He’s absolutely fundamental to Torchwood.
Question: Do you think you'll stick to the miniseries format?
DAVIES: It’s hard to say. It’s been pretty successful. We were the number one show for five nights running [in the UK], which was amazing. Everything’s looking good, but it’s hard to say. We’re in a recession so no one gets easy money to make television. I like continuous story. I like doing new things. In many ways, Torchwood was designed as a digital weapon. It’s kind of multi-purpose, multi-adaptable, shape-shifting weapon that can become anything. I’m kind of excited what we’ll do next.
Question: What about a feature film?
DAVIES: Oh, God. Raising money for that would be harder than a television show. But anything is possible.
Question: Any hints about where the story will go next?
DAVIES: No, it’s literally too soon. I don’t know yet.
'Torchwood' boss to angry fans: Go watch 'Supernatural'
Интервью под катом. Блин, он меня реально бесит!!!!
Спойлеры к 4ой серии CoE
SPOILER ALERT: Stop reading if you have yet to see Part Four of Torchwood: Children of Earth. Everyone else, onward and downward...
Backlash shmacklash. That's Torchwood creator Russell T. Davies' reaction to the outcry over the shocking death of Gareth David-Lloyd's much-loved Ianto in the BBC America miniseries Children of Earth. "It's not a backlash really," he scoffs. "It's just a few people posting online." Those few people may want to fasten their seat belts, 'cause the unapologetic Brit behind the original Queer as Folk also has some strong opinions about why Ianto had to die, what TV show pissed off fans should watch instead (hint: see headline above), and where Torchwood goes from here.
Question: Why'd you kill Ianto?
RUSSELL T. DAVIES: The threat to the world was just so great it simply would have been unlikely if everyone had survived. Torchwood is an adult show. We have killed off leading members of the cast before. Those have always been the stakes. Poor Ianto was defeated by a greater evil, I'm afraid.
Question: So this wasn't something that resulted from Gareth wanting to leave?
DAVIES: No, it was my decision.
Question: What do you make of the fan backlash?
DAVIES: It's not particularly a backlash. What's actually happening is, well, nothing really to be honest. It's a few people posting online and getting fans upset. Which is marvelous. It just goes to prove how much they love the character and the actor. People often say, 'Fans have got their knives out!' They haven't got any knives. I haven't been stabbed. Nothing's happened. It's simply a few people typing. I'm glad they're typing because they’re that involved. But if you can’t handle drama you shouldn’t watch it. Find something else. Go look at poetry. Poetry’s wonderful.
Question: Can you confirm that Ianto is, in fact, dead?
DAVIES: I’m afraid so. He’s a wonderful actor. I've worked with him before. I’m a big fan of his and I [look forward to] watching his career prosper. But death is death in this case. It would devalue the entire plot if we brought him back.
Question: But it's a risky thing to kill off such a popular character.
DAVIES: Absolutely. There’s a risk that some people won’t come back to watch now that Ianto’s gone. I thank them for watching the show and I recommend they go watch Supernatural, because those boys are beautiful. And don’t tell me they’re brothers. [Laughs] Not in my mind.
Question: One of my readers wondered if you were under pressure to de-gay Torchwood and that's why you killed him off.
DAVIES: I think you can forget about people picking up gay rights as an issue. It's rather like children picking up nursery blocks and waving them in the air but having no idea what it entails. We’re talking about issues in my entire life here, not just one small television program. If they did research they’d go and look at the history of gay and lesbian characters that I have put on screen. They should simply grow up, do some research, and stop riding on a bandwagon that they actually don’t know anything about.
Question: What was Gareth's reaction when you told him you were killing Ianto?
DAVIES: Oh, he’s a lovely, professional man. He completely understood. He’d seen two major characters disappear the year before. It’s a job. It’s a very straightforward process. He loved filming that great big death scene.
Question: With half the cast dead, where does Torchwood go from here?
DAVIES: We don’t yet know about our fourth series, but I’m fairly confident [it will continue] in some shape or form. I will just sit down and invent new stories and characters. That’s what I’ve spent my entire life doing. It’s not difficult at all. I could write the first 10 scenes in an episode right now.
Question: Will Jack continue to be the centerpiece?
DAVIES: Oh, I would think so. I would hope so. He’s absolutely fundamental to Torchwood.
Question: Do you think you'll stick to the miniseries format?
DAVIES: It’s hard to say. It’s been pretty successful. We were the number one show for five nights running [in the UK], which was amazing. Everything’s looking good, but it’s hard to say. We’re in a recession so no one gets easy money to make television. I like continuous story. I like doing new things. In many ways, Torchwood was designed as a digital weapon. It’s kind of multi-purpose, multi-adaptable, shape-shifting weapon that can become anything. I’m kind of excited what we’ll do next.
Question: What about a feature film?
DAVIES: Oh, God. Raising money for that would be harder than a television show. But anything is possible.
Question: Any hints about where the story will go next?
DAVIES: No, it’s literally too soon. I don’t know yet.
@темы: Торчвуд 3 сезон, Торчвуд, РТД
послностью согласна. как бы я не бесилась оттого, как он поступил с любимыми героями, я его точно ножом не буду угрожать - а какой смысл в драме тогда? в том-то и дело, что он это так делает, что сердиться на него лично у меня сил нет уже
Supernatural, because those boys are beautiful. And don’t tell me they’re brothers. [Laughs] Not in my mind.
о господи, и Расселл за супернатуральский слэш... всё, повесилась и срочно пошла смотреть...
I’ve spent my entire life doing. It’s not difficult at all. I could write the first 10 scenes in an episode right now.
за что и обожаю. и доверяю. всё, что выйдет из-под его пера, достойно просмотра. поэтому меня не смутит новая команда, если он будет писать. вот пусть он сначала выкрутится и вернет Джека
да, он всегда придумывает замечательного персонажа или выстраивает отношения на самом начальном уровне, а потом попросту не знает что с ними делать. поэтому гораздо проще убить, отнять память, засунуть в параллельную вселенную. и тоже самое будет с "новым" Торчвудом. я уже совсем не уверена, что хочу это смотреть.
вернуть Джека - не такая проблема, кстати. гораздо сложней будет решить, почему он так легко забыл про все, что случилось, и продолжает нормально себе жить. давайте вспомним, как он корил себя за то, что отпустил руку брата, и подумаем о том, как он будет мучатся за собственноручную жертву внуком. либо терпеть на экране мрачного депрессивного разбитого человека, кому он такой нужен в главные герои?
терпеть на экране мрачного депрессивного разбитого человека, кому он такой нужен в главные герои?
Хауза обожает весь мир уже пять сезонов
На вкус и цвет, конечно, но никакого ума или там "тонкого" садизма я в смерти Йанто не заметила - это был даже не садизм, а произвол демиурга: сделаю, потому что я могу. Ну можешь, конечно, кто спорит-то.
И в кино иначе бывает и причем тут поэзия немножко непонятно - можно подумать, там ничего депрессивного, а сплошная радость и восторг?
Кроме того, все, конечно, смотрят по своим мотивам, но вот я вижу всякого пессимизма и в реале выше крыши, если мне захочется про грустное и смерть - я новости посмотрю. А в кино, литературе и прочих креативах хочется таки, чтоб какое-то счастье полюбившихся героев в финале ожидало, а то лично я не вижу смысла смотреть и сопереживать сколько-то сезонов, чтоб в конце "все умерли".
я отсылала к цитате Рассела из этого интервью. ничего иного я вам сказать не могу, так как полностью с ним согласна.
И поэзия прекрасна, кто бы спорил. Может, и Вам с РТД для разнообразия почитать, чтобы убедиться чот там не одни птички-цеточки и любовная лирика. Поэзия многогранна, и драматизма там при желании можно найти столько, что хватит на десяток Торчвудов.
Ибо имхо, вся концепция этих двух сериалов именно про это.
Не согласна. Так как Торчвуд никогда не был сериалом про Джека. Это сериал про команду, про разных интересных противоречивых людей, а не шоу одного героя. Там Гвен и то главней получилась
Хауса я не видела ни серии. Но не думаю, что он такой мрачный и жуткий как Джек после всего того, что он пережил. Хауса, мне казалось. любят еще за его чувство юмора. А Джеку еще долго будет не до смеха. Опять путаница с неким мрачным пессимистичным взглядом на жизнь вредного человека и человека совершено раздавленного и разбитого, который хотел бы умереть, да не может. И если на экране будути одни несчастные безумцы, то я не стану включать это шоу. С счастливыми людьми тоже что-то присходит и случается. Просто если кто-то не умеет про них рассказывать истории, это не значит, что смотреть на них скучно.
миссис Норрис очень правильно написали)))))
спор - это как-то много сказано. обмен мнениями, может быть. собственно для этого я и создавала сообщество. чтобы обсудить сериал и все, что с ним связано. а все остальное - фики-фанарты и прочее - побочно.
но заставлять высказываться никого не собираюсь. не всем же есть, что сказать
ну, просто это верный удар, который стопроцентно попадет в цель. Если есть желание вмазать конкретно по болевой точке, чтобы зритель расчувствовался всенепременно - убить персонажа самое оно. И можно особо не заморачиваться с чувствами и прочим: убил - и зритель рыдает, teh drama.
Дешево и сердито.
вторая сменаубили Янто...Насчет трагичности бессмертия - может, помните сериал "Горец"? Главный герой бессмертен, ему приходилось переживать уход любимых, друзей, уезжать, убегать из мест, жизнь в которых уже сложилась, но - ни одного нелогичного, необоснованного эпизода в "Горце" не было.
И, действительно, драма - это не значит поубивать всех персонажей за несколько серий. Слишком примитивное представление об этом жанре.
P.S. Почему-то такое ощущение, что РТД относится к зрителям, как к идиотам.
Почему-то такое ощущение, что РТД относится к зрителям, как к идиотам.
тоже есть немного